Friday, 29th July, 2005
9:47 a.m. (NZ time)
Hi everybody,
This posting is a deviation from my normal bio blog. But I received this email from Tom Bartlett asking a question that I hear asked time and time again. So, I thought I would take this time to answer his question from my perspective. I have deleted his email address so he wouldn’t be bothered with dozens of emails.
—–Original Message—–
From: Tom Bartlett
Sent: Jul 24, 2005 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: You’re Music
Hey, sometime if you’re up late and want to ramble, here’s one for you…..
Can you help me to understand why such carnage exists in the world today?
At times I can’t imagine a supreme being would permit the cruelty we humans unleash on each other. And over the ages, so much of that carnage has been wrought in God’s name….. Makes it seem that if there is a “God”, he’s not doing much to save the starving masses in Africa… One sees it in the faces of the dying children.
And how come all these hypocritical religious leaders get away with such immoral behavior in God’s name? You’d think God would have struck down all those child-molesting priests for the unforgivable sins they committed…. and Animals, whom we claim to be without spirits, are almost never as cruel as we humans are to each other.
Blog away Barry, I’ll watch for your words of wisdom…. I too love the
blah blah blah….. Tom
Hi Tom,
Why does God permit the hideous carnage that has been unleashed on the world?
Well, here’s my take on it. And please realize it’s just my opinion, I’m not a teacher or a preacher, this is all what I call my airplane theology, and your opinion is certainly as valid as mine.
There appears to be a wide-spread misconception that would have us believe God is up there somewhere, high above the stars, sitting on His great white throne, just looking down on us as we struggle our way through the carnage of life. This misconception would have us believe He’s totally disconnected from us; just sitting there, judging our loyalty to Him as He tests us to the full limit of our endurances.
But scriptures tell another story “Luke 17:21…the Kingdom of God is within you” so it appears God actually lives within us, each and every one, knocking on the door of our heart, but there’s only one handle on that door and it’s on the inside of the private room where the TRUE US lives, (not in our heads, but in our hearts.)
When Adam and Eve first disobeyed God and ate the fruit from the knowledge of good and evil tree, they inadvertently loosed a deadly evil into this world.
The only way I know of, that anyone can gain knowledge, I mean real meaningful life changing knowledge, is to experience it in our personal lives. We can tell a child not to touch a hot stove because it will burn them. If the child has never before touched anything hot, they won’t even know what the word HOT means. So the child will touch the stove.
Now first of all, the hot stove is not evil, it’s just hot. And if a child touches a hot stove, that child will be punished. Not because the stove is mad at them, not because it’s taking revenge against them for their disobeying their instructor. The pain the child experiences, if it should touch the stove, will just be the natural results of flesh coming into contact with hot steel. Barbequed and blistered fingers! Now that’s knowledge gained through experience.
God tried to protect us and our ancient ancestors from the pain. He knew what we would experience if we were to violate the natural laws of reality. But being God, I believe He knew sooner or later we would in fact touch the stove, by eating the fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, and that’s just what we did. Only this stove didn’t just burn us, it released an evil that if left unchecked, would eventually kill every living creature.
I believe that first act of disobedience was the exact moment the human mind became sentient, became aware of its own presence, thinking itself to be separate, cut off and alone in the universe. (But that’s a whole other line of thought to explore in some other moment.)
In my Sci-Fi brain I can only imagine how our creator, after witnessing that first act of disobedience, instructed this holographic universe, a universe that He himself spoke into existence, and continues to hold in place by the power of His Love, I can only imagine Him saying OK, they’ve chosen to gain the knowledge of good and evil…. Loose the good and evil program. And so the insanity began. “Good and Evil 101.”
To gain the knowledge of anything, we have to experience its reality. We can read a recipe or a menu but we won’t gain any nutrition out of either one, we have to eat the real food. We can read a map or a travel brochure but we’ll never find out what Rome is like or London, or Singapore unless we go there in person, walk the streets, eat the food, breathe the air, and live with the people. Then after 50 or 60 years we’ll learn to speak their language, we’ll know their history, their traditions, and we might even just discover the spirit of their culture.
The only way I can see for us human beings to gain the knowledge of good and evil is for God to allow evil to run its full course. One of the things that people don’t seem to realize is that the more you love, the more you hurt when someone you love is injured. There’s no-one that loves us more than our Father, Creator.
A young woman, having been brutally raped as a young teenager, asked a friend of mine, “Where was God when I was being raped?” And my friend, who was dying of cancer, thought for a moment and then replied, “He was being raped too.” You see, God lives in each of us. Scripture tells us that what we do unto the least of these, we do unto Him. I’ve always thought that to mea, when we give someone a meal or clothing or shelter, but it also means whatever evil we perpetrate against anyone, we are in fact perpetrating it against Him.
So, He endures the pain of all mankind. For that’s the only way we can ever gain the knowledge of good and evil.
Several years ago, my son Brennon and I were sitting at the breakfast
bar in our kitchen. My wife was making pasta and had a large kettle of water coming up to boil on the stove. My son asked me, “Dad, will we ever sin in heaven?” I said, “No, son, we will never sin in heaven.” He said, “But what if we do?” I said, “We won’t.” He said, “Well, we could couldn’t we?” I said, “Yeah, we’ll always have the freedom of choice, but no-one will ever choose to sin in heaven.” He said, “How can you say that? I mean someone just might decide during some distant period of eternal existence to sin.” I then asked him, if he could take that kettle of scalding, boiling water and pour it over the top of his head?” He shuddered, and said, “Oh dad, I would never do that!” I said, “I didn’t ask if you WOULD do it, I asked COULD you do it? Could you take two hot pan holders and go over there right now, and pick up that kettle of scalding hot water, and dump it over the top of your head?” He thought about it for a few seconds and replied, “yeah, I suppose I could, but dad I would never do that.” And I then told him, “That’s why we’ll never sin in heaven Brennon, we could, but we never will because we will have learned our lesson in the practical reality of life, we will have experienced the horror and carnage of what sin does and we will never ever choose to sin again.”
So, God endures it all so we can learn what sin does. We only experience our personal pain and suffering. But God feels the combined pain of every human being who has ever lived. Suffering it all, from the fall of Adam and Eve, to the great white throne judgment, every atrocity, every tortured gasping breath, every starving child, every raped and murdered man or woman. He endures the agony of all mankind because that’s the price of our tuition. And because He loves us so much, Jesus, who is one with the father, was willing to pay that price, so through Him, we might be able graduate with a PHD in “Good and Evil 101″.
That’s why I believe God allows evil to happen. We have to look at the big Picture, the whole human drama, the full history of mankind in its entirety, from the first act of disobedience to the final moment of judgment. So at last, when it is finally finished, we will never ever, never, never ever…. To infinity and beyond, sin again.
Our duty is to allow Christ to live through us, fully awake in the present moment that we find ourselves experiencing, whatever that experience might be. I was just recently talking with some friends about Jesus and how He said, “I am the way, the truth and the life.” I was told that a more proper translation of the word “truth” from the original language could have been the word “reality”. A lady sitting at the table asked, “what’s wrong with the word “truth.” I said, “well “truth” is kind of philosophical isn’t it, you can almost bend anything you like into something that might seem like the truth to you, but it would not necessarily be true to some one else. But reality is real; it’s just the way things are. You can’t really say what “is”, isn’t, because it just IS what it is. I think of it as the “Isness of Being”. I don’t know why, but I just love that, to me reality is “The Isness of God.”
So He is the way, the truth/reality and the life. The reality we experience each moment I believe is in fact the voice of God, continuing on from those first four words, “Let there be light”. Words are a form of communication, and within each moment of reality, I can hear God’s voice speaking. God’s voice, revealing His curriculum, His tailor-made lesson plan, woven into the moments of my life to deliver me from the lying fantasies of my mind, to wake me up to the truth that I live and breathe and have my being in Him. He lives in me, and I live in Him. Nothing can touch me without His permission. When Jesus stood before Pilate, and Pilate said to him, “don’t you realize I have power either to free you or crucify you.” Jesus replied, “You would have no power over me if it were not given to you from above.”
Once we surrender to Christ, and place our fate totally and eternally in the hands of our heavenly Father, Satan no longer has any power over us, he can’t touch us in any way unless God allows him to. And if our Father allows Satan to hit us with darts and arrows, then He’s only using Satan as part of the lesson plan to show us there still remains within us some impurity, some remnant of the old man that needs to be crucified, needs to be placed on the altar, and surrendered to Jesus.
Once we’ve surrendered to whatever situation we find ourselves in, and allow Christ to live through us into that moment, we have truly found the peace that passes all understanding. In this world we WILL have tribulation, but God is not “testing us”, He has allowed a situation to evolve around us, so we might learn that we can trust Him. When we surrender to God in that moment of tribulation, we enter into the Sabbath rest spoken of in the 3rd chapter of Hebrews. We become one with a love that has no opposite. Loving trust and Surrender is the great weapon that Jesus used to once and for all defeat Satan, and now He has made that weapon available to us. Trust and obey for there’s no other way, to be happy in “the way the truth and the life” than to trust and obey.
There’s a ton more I could say about this subject but I don’t type and I can’t spell very good so my wife, Mari types all these words out as I speak them and it’s 11.10 p.m., her fingers are falling off, so I must say “Goodnight.”
In closing, I would like to encourage you to purchase a little book that has changed our lives. It’s titled, “The Sacrament of the Present Moment” by Jean-Pierre de Caussade. Go to a bookstore, any bookstore, buy it, read it and let me know what you discover get back to me.
Thanks for your wonderful email.
Barry
P.S. Do I have your permission to put your email on my blog page along with my reply?
Tom said yes. I have his permission.
So, that’s it for this posting. I’ll get back to the on-going saga of my journey next time.
I’ll be back……(maybe)
BMcG
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